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  The Iron Fist in the Velvet Glove

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the watchtower and jehovah's witnesses are fond of saying there are no automatic sanctions for taking blood.

  that they no longer disfellowship someone who takes blood.

  that they have a "free choice" in the matter.

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  Lee Elder

  The Watchtower and Jehovah's Witnesses are fond of saying there are no automatic sanctions for taking blood. That they no longer disfellowship someone who takes blood. That they have a "free choice" in the matter. This is equivocation and misdirection. Note how they report JW's who take blood on the same form as those who are disfellowshipped for all other offenses. This is the "iron fist" in the "gloved hand" that enforces Watchtower dictates by punishing dissent for non-compliance with compulsory shunning by even close family members. How can any JW's who requests "no blood transfusion" be sincerely believed since they are being threatened and coerced? What free choice does someone have if you hold a gun to their head?

  
  
  
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  Who Qualifies for TTATT?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i first learn ttatt i started telling every one.

  ttatt will not help him, it will destroy him.

  all his family are jws.

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  @Oliva Wilder - it really depended on the person. In many cases it was the contradictions in the blood policy. In a few others I used the Bible/Strongs/Interlinear and showed them how the Greek word for marking and disfellowshipping are the same word and helped them reason on the significance of that. I also talked about other cults and the techniques they use on their followers.
  
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  Who Qualifies for TTATT?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i first learn ttatt i started telling every one.

  ttatt will not help him, it will destroy him.

  all his family are jws.

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  You raise valid points that I considered as well before approaching individuals. The bottom line for me was similar, but with some clear differences. If you are currently a JW, and especially if you are an elder, you are in a position of influence and people are going to listen to what you have to say. In my case, almost everyone I spoke with ended up leaving. There were some who I would have liked to have spoke with but I didn't feel it was appropriate. One was dealing with cancer, another had a severely disabled child, others were simply too old to start over imo. I made what seemed like the right calls to me at the time and don't lose any sleep over it.
  
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  Advance Directives and the JW Patient

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  advance directives are complex legal instruments and widely misunderstood by both physicians and their patients.

  with most jehovah's witnesses their is a significant level of misinformation, and in many cases coercion or undue influence exerted on the patient.

  physicians need to be aware of this and always meet privately with the patient to educate them and then ascertain their true wishes.

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  Advance Directives and the JW Patient

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  advance directives are complex legal instruments and widely misunderstood by both physicians and their patients.

  with most jehovah's witnesses their is a significant level of misinformation, and in many cases coercion or undue influence exerted on the patient.

  physicians need to be aware of this and always meet privately with the patient to educate them and then ascertain their true wishes.

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  Hemopure has a troubled history. Its still being worked on and used occasionally on JWs in the U.S. on a compassionate use basis. Its available in South Africa.
  
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  Advance Directives and the JW Patient

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  advance directives are complex legal instruments and widely misunderstood by both physicians and their patients.

  with most jehovah's witnesses their is a significant level of misinformation, and in many cases coercion or undue influence exerted on the patient.

  physicians need to be aware of this and always meet privately with the patient to educate them and then ascertain their true wishes.

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  It just depends on the kid in the U.S. There are many baptized JWs under 13 years of age. The WT lawyers have successfully argued that they are "mature minors" and should be allowed to make their own decisions. I knew a 15 year old JW who had leukemia and refused blood. She asked me to be a pallbearer at her funeral. I was 16 at the time and it had a lasting impression on me.
  
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  Advance Directives and the JW Patient

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  advance directives are complex legal instruments and widely misunderstood by both physicians and their patients.

  with most jehovah's witnesses their is a significant level of misinformation, and in many cases coercion or undue influence exerted on the patient.

  physicians need to be aware of this and always meet privately with the patient to educate them and then ascertain their true wishes.

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  John: The JW patient is given a document which lists the various blood fractions - including hemoglobin (the largest single component of blood besides water) and told to study the relevant scriptures and prayerfully make a conscientious choice. Difficult to do since the Bible never mentions the use of blood fractions or components and indeed never makes any reference to the modern practice of blood transfusion. Doctors are right to be concerned when an unconscious JW comes into the ER with a advance directive. Speaking with JW family members is seldom helpful. Every effort should be made to speak with the patient, making sure they have factual information and privacy.
  
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  Advance Directives and the JW Patient

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  advance directives are complex legal instruments and widely misunderstood by both physicians and their patients.

  with most jehovah's witnesses their is a significant level of misinformation, and in many cases coercion or undue influence exerted on the patient.

  physicians need to be aware of this and always meet privately with the patient to educate them and then ascertain their true wishes.

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  Advance Directives are complex legal instruments and widely misunderstood by both physicians and their patients. With most Jehovah's Witnesses their is a significant level of misinformation, and in many cases coercion or undue influence exerted on the patient. Physicians need to be aware of this and always meet privately with the patient to educate them and then ascertain their true wishes. This is especially vital with younger JWs.

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  My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago

  by Perry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  none of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.

  just found out this morning.

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  Very sorry for your loss.
  
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  Does Anyone Have Knowledge About Follicular B Cell Lymphoma and Blood Transfusions?

  by jamiebowers in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  from what i've read, platelet and red blood cell levels are usually severely lowered during traditional treatment for this type of cancer.

  is this correct?

  and if so, are platelets and red blood cells now part of the watch tower approved fractions?

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  Lee Elder

  Platelets and red blood cells are not currently permitted. It is quite reasonable to ask why since current WT policy permits the use of 100% of blood in fractionated form. Learn more at www.ajwrb.org